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John Martignoni’s video apologetics
Catholic apologist, John Martignoni decided to take his one-man apologetics show to You Tube. He intends to present a series called, “Questions Protestants can’t Answer.” He opens the series with this question: “Is a dead body really a body?” The analogy is that a body without a spirit is still a body though be it a dead body, and faith without works is still faith, but like a body without a spirit it is a dead faith.
So far very good and very biblical, but then Martignoni attempts to associate the doctrine of “faith alone” with dead faith. And how does Martignoni associate faith alone with dead faith? He doesn’t say. Martignoni offers nothing to support his accusation. Nevertheless he is willing to send his disciples out to confront Protestants with this accusation armed with nothing but ignorance and misconceptions.
Take a look.
If Catholics are going to confront Protestants on this issue, they better be prepared to talk about works, specifically works of the law.
Faith alone is a biblical doctrine and it refers to a living faith. Dead faith is faith that is not accompanied by the fruit of the Spirit, which is the works of God in us. There are indeed those who proclaim Christ yet lack the works of the Spirit in their lives, these have dead faith. But those who by faith have become a new creation in Christ are alive in Christ and Christ in manifested in them by the fruit they bear. When a person truly believes the Gospel of Christ they desire repentance, and in their repentance they change the way they talk, the way they treat others, and the way they perceive their neighbor. They begin to manifest the fruits of the Spirit, this faith is a living faith accompanied by good works.
Conversely, the Catholic view of faith plus works is entirely unbiblical. This view separates faith from works. If we apply this doctrine to the thief on the cross next to Jesus we have a conflict. In order for the thief to be saved, and we know he was, an exception has to be made to the Catholic doctrine. And if we are to say that a person can believe and be saved upon their deathbed we again have to make an exception to the doctrine. And again exceptions have to be made with regards to small children and the mentally handicapped. All this is proof that the Catholic doctrine of faith plus works is a doctrine of men.
In addition, the Catholic system, yes system, of salvation includes adherence to “canon law.” For example, if a Catholic does not go to mass on a day deemed mandatory by canon law, they supposedly commit mortal sin and are immediately removed from a state of grace. Then comes the exception; if they confess their “sin” to a priest and do the mandatory penance they can return to a state of grace.
Such laws were never intended to be imposed on Christians. Salvation by faith is accompanied by good works apart from any law. Catholics are told that their salvation is dependant upon following canon law, the Apostle Paul said,
“The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. against such there is no law.” (Gal. 5:22-23)
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about 1 month ago
quote – If we apply this doctrine to the thief on the cross next to Jesus we have a conflict. In order for the thief to be saved, and we know he was, an exception has to be made to the Catholic doctrine. And if we are to say that a person can believe and be saved upon their deathbed we again have to make an exception to the doctrine. End of quote.
1. Did the thief merely said quietly to himself, “I have faith in Jesus Christ”?
2. Did the thief say loudly, “I have faith in Jesus Christ”?
I am afraid that the thief did neither 1 nor 2.
But, the thief did do some good works, when he declared his faith in Jesus Christ by doing something and ASKING Jesus to – “remember me when you come into your kingdom”!
Again at the Last Judgment , the King said to the Sheep, “come into the kingdom of the Father, because you gave me food, you gave me drink, etc”.
“Faith or faith alone” was not mentioned at all.
In fact to emphasise the point the King then turns to the Goats to say “go away from me because when I was hungry, gou gave me no food etc etc”.
I am truly puzzled as to why the King made no mention of Faith at all – do you know why?
Sincerely, Nik
about 1 month ago
Let me ask you this: What must we do to do the works God requires?”
about 1 month ago
It’s a relationship:
1. God offers grace.
2. We accept.
3. God gives us the gift of the Spirit (faith, hope, love).
4. We live out our faith by following Christ.
To do the works God requires, it depends: If we have not accepted God’s grace, our first responsibility is to accept grace by believing the gospel. Trying to do good outside of friendship with God is pride and that is pointless.
If we have accepted God’s grace, then we are slaves to our new master. We have the responsibility a slave has, to “trust and obey” – as the hymn says.